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As you all know by now, I get fed up with the BBC at times. It is their seeming arrogance and indifference to anybody else's view but there own and their dismissal of any complaints or queries that they receive that sticks in my craw.

I have seen TV abroad and believe you me, I appreciate the BBC enormously and think we are lucky to have an ad free channel with good programmes. But the Beeb forgets one thing. We pay for the BBC. If it was not for us forking out for our TV licence they would have no funds sloshing around in their money boxes. No money for taxis, expensive jaunts, outreach days, workshops for the staff, first class travel etc etc. They would do well to remember this and say thank you now and then.   Yeh right…

The other week there was a wonderful documentary on BBC2, The Lost Princesses, all about the four Romanov daughters of Tsar Nicholas. For once it was relatively free of scudding clouds, presenters wandering around looking at ceilings and blurred film of actors pretending to be either Alexandra or Rasputin. There was a little but not much. Instead we had excellent commentators, though I felt a few were surplus to requirements, lots of photographs, letters written by the sisters and wonderful historical footage which I had not seen before. Best of all no sign of Fiona Bruce in tight trousers….

So what is my problem?   The usual. It had barely ended when the credits were minimised and in came the COMING UP NEXT announcer.  This drives me CRAZY. So I got online and sent a complaint. Received a reply and this is Wot I Got:

Thank you for contacting us regarding BBC Two's 'Russia's Lost Princesses' on 26/08/2014.

While you’re admiration for the programme is much appreciated, we understand you feel the ending was disrupted by a continuity announcement. (my italics!!)

We try very hard to produce a wide range of high quality programmes and services which we hope will appeal to our audiences. As a publicly-funded broadcaster we serve the whole of the United Kingdom providing programming to a hugely diverse audience with differing tastes and preferences.

With an increase in viewer choice and a dramatic fragmentation of the market, we have a duty to let the audience know about the programmes available to them. Continuity announcements provide clear programme descriptions in a concise timeframe. They are carefully positioned to avoid interference while refreshing the listings.

Having reviewed the ending of this particular episode, we accept an announcement was delivered during the credits, however the presenter's tone was measured and respected the sombre scenes depicted in the programme.

Transmitting announcements during credit sequences also reduces the number of trails between programmes. We recently adjusted the presentation of end credits to minimise diversion.

Nevertheless, we acknowledge you believe this is a persistent matter. All complaints are sent to senior management and programme makers every morning. We included your points in this overnight report. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

Alastair O'Donnell

BBC Complaints'

So, as per, bog off you miserable old bag. Love the 'we acknowledge you believe' bit in the last para. I thought oh sod it and left it but then I got annoyed. No I am not going to let this go. I know full well that my complain will not reach the right people quickly. It is probably in the Trash folder right now. So I got out my Quick Quotes Quill, aka my laptop and got going.

And this is what I wrote to the Director General of the BBC:

             Dear Mr Hall

 A few years ago I wrote to the BBC and  complained, by letter and email,  about a matter I found troublesome and irritating. I had no reply and had given up hope of receiving one when six weeks later a letter dropped through my post box.  When I saw it was over a page long I was delighted, perhaps my concerns were being taken seriously.

 I sat down and read it cup of tea to hand. Then I read it again.  And again. After several perusals I managed to translate the page and a half of management speak and gobbledegook it contained and came up with a one sentence translation which I interpreted as Go away you Old Bag we are not interested in a Word you Say.  This is a sanitised version of my original thought.

 Now here is the problem.   If you receive a letter or email like this, you are dismissed. The BBC is not interested in you or your opinion and probably has three or four standard responses like this which are sent to all and sundry.   So I could write again and again and this is where the problem arises. You contact the BBC more than once about a concern which is not being addressed and two things happen, (1) you are ignored or (2) you are dismissed as Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells aka Pain in the Neck and filed away in a darkened cabinet somewhere in the bowels of BBC House.

 We can’t win.

 My recent complaint to the BBC was about exactly the same subject about which I complained some five years ago. The constant minimising of the credits at the end of a programme and a voice over booming in and telling you what is coming next before you have had a moment to take in what you have just watched. If it is a programme of a sad and sensitive nature it is even more annoying than normal.

 A week or so ago I watched The Lost Princesses on BBC2, a documentary about the Four Romanov Sisters. It was excellent, a cut above the average BBC production with its usual scudding clouds and actors dressed up and filmed in a blur. There was some of that but it was kept to a minimum and we had excellent speakers, letters written by the Four Sisters, photographs and some wonderful footage which I had never seen before. So all was good.

 We know what happened to this tragic family and the end of the second part came to its poignant close and, naturally, in comes the usual announcer who I imagine must be sitting with a stop watch and timing the intervention of Coming up Next.  

 I am a grown up woman. I know what is Coming up Next and if I want to watch it then I will stay with the channel. If I don’t then I either switch off or go and view something else that I might have noted. There is no need for this kind of announcement at the end of any programme.

 “With an increase in viewer choice and a dramatic fragmentation of the market, we have a duty to let the audience know about the programmes available to them. Continuity announcements provide clear programme descriptions in a concise timeframe. They are carefully positioned to avoid interference while refreshing the listings.

Having reviewed the ending of this particular episode, we accept an announcement was delivered during the credits, however the presenter's tone was measured and respected the sombre scenes depicted in the programme”

This is part of the reply I received.  It is rubbish. You do not have a duty to let us know about the programmes available to them. We know and we can read.  Carefully positioned. No they are not. To avoid interference. They don’t. And what is Refreshing the Listings pray tell?

I am also told that it was accepted that an announcement was delivered during the credits but the presenter’s tone was measured……blah blah ……respected the sombre scenes reflected in the programme.

You just don’t get it do you? I don’t care if the announcer was grief stricken at what they had just watched, if they were sobbing at the fate of the Romanovs, if they were speaking quietly in order to avoid upsetting us. I don’t care. I just do not want ANY announcements at all until at least the end of the credits. Nada. Nothing. Zilch.

This is one of the most commented and complained about subjects by the viewers to the BBC and you continue to ignore us.   I am dreading the start of the Christmas season and the trailers repeated over and over and over again. Only upside of this is that it confirms that I do not wish to watch any of the shows so relentlessly being hyped.

Now think on this:

Mr Hall you were in charge of the Royal Opera House for many years and I have attended many operas there. Imagine this scenario:

It is the end of Verdi’s Aida. The lover’s duet O Terra Addio has just finished, Amneris is on top of the tomb singing Pace Pace, and the violins are playing the final heartbreaking tune, the curtains slowly close and drop. The audience is silent.

And then a voice comes over the PR system.  ‘Coming up next week. LA BOHEME!!!!!!’

Imagine how your audience would react.

Exactly…………..

Yours sincerely

 

Elaine M Simpson-Long (Ms)

 PS and by the way it might be helpful if you pointed out to the writer of the email that ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ are two different things….

 

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28 responses to “I write to the BBC”

  1. Elaine Avatar

    I record nearly everything now for just this reason but such a shame we have to do this.

  2. Juxtabook Avatar

    I rarely watch TV live since the advent of the ability to record things to a hard drive on a Humax, or Sky, or whatever. So the ‘coming up next announcement’ is redundant – as it must be to the many people who watch TV like this now. Pointless and very annoying. Especially the shrinking of the text to nearly unreadable levels.

  3. Elaine Avatar

    I have my remote to hand at all times ready to zap the mute button but isn’t it sad that we have to do this?

  4. Elaine Avatar

    Watched the Sound of Music with my granddaughter yesterday. Tense scene at the end where they are hiding from the Germans and there was no music at all and it merely increased the tension. I had not noticed it before but I did now

  5. Elaine Avatar

    I look forward to the reply, if I get one

  6. Elaine Avatar

    Not sure about this. They loathed her so much because she challenged them that I very much doubt it

  7. Jane Avatar
    Jane

    A great post. The other growing problem is the continuity announcer who gives out spoilers in their introduction. I’m paraphrasing but, for example, ‘Here is the final episode of Wallander where we find out that he has Alzheimer’s but everything is ok in the end’. I keep the mute button on until the second the programme begins and whop it on the moment the credits roll.

  8. bruessel Avatar
    bruessel

    Music in bookshops is the pits.

  9. Joan Kyler Avatar

    This is happening in the United States, too. It’s very annoying. On some streaming programs, like Netflix, the next episode starts automatically “in 15 seconds”. I’d rather a chance to read credits, a pause, and the chance to decide if I even want to watch the next episode.
    And I agree about the music everywhere. We’re surrounded by so much noise – car horns, trucks, airplanes (even in the country). All the research says that noise is a major stress factor, affecting our physical health and our mental health, but no one does anything to curb it. No wonder we’re all sick and crazy!

  10. Chrissie Avatar

    I am with you on this, Elaine. It’s infuriating. More strength to your sword arm!

  11. Margaret Powling Avatar
    Margaret Powling

    Is the Viewers and Listeners Association founded by the late Mary Whitehouse is still going strong? I wonder what it has to say about this squashing of the credits and the awful voice-over s advertising another programme while the credits are still rolling and we’re still considering the programme we have just seen?

  12. Margaret Powling Avatar
    Margaret Powling

    Our GPs have the radio in the waiting room tuned to local commercial radio. It doesn’t take much imagination to imagine how awful it is. Once there on our own I unplugged the radio, but I’ve not had the courage to do this while others are in the waiting room. I think in this instance they do it in an attempt to please the majority of their patients as the surgery is bordering a large housing estate (can one say ‘council estate’ without sounding snobby?) and they assume, rightly or wrongly, that this is the station that they would be listening to at home.

  13. Elaine Avatar

    Oh I know, the BBC are NEVER wrong but it is good to try and shake their complacency now and then

  14. Elaine Avatar

    Thankyou Carole

  15. Elaine Avatar

    Thank you so much for taking the trouble to write such an interesting comment. It confirms what i have always thought that we, the viewers, are treated as dust beneath the chariot wheels. It just gets my seething. Should I hear anything I will let you know, but think you are probably correct that I will get nowhere

  16. Elaine Avatar

    It is so unfair to those who have worked on the programme and would like to see their name but that does not bother the BBC

  17. Elaine Avatar

    My dentist has music in the reception, quite loud. Makes me wonder if it is to drown the screams of the patients!!

  18. Elaine Avatar

    Pretty sure I will get the usual response but if anything else will let you know

  19. Elaine Avatar

    There seems to be no sense of tranquility anywhere these days. I find it hard to cope with and music in bookshops drives me totally up the wall

  20. tina crosby Avatar
    tina crosby

    Well done you – I felt exactly the same as you after what had been a fascinating programme. Doubt you will have much success with the BBC as they are ‘never wrong’. I often listen to Feedback on the radio and have I ever heard a programme maker accept they may be wrong – no.

  21. Carole Avatar
    Carole

    Wonderful!

  22. mq, cb Avatar
    mq, cb

    I understand your frustration but I’m not sure that you’ll get much further. For one thing, everyone in the viewer comments department will have all been on the kind of customer service training that says any complaint is your fault, so you just get the usual range of non-apologies and excuses. Secondly, it’s axiomatic at broadcasters that all viewer complaints are mainly nonsense so none of them will feel any guilt at all for presenting their usual range of non-apologies and excuses.
    I used to work at a UK broadcaster where the previous night’s viewer complaints and comments were published on the intranet. They were mostly remarkable for displaying the dire state of this country’s educational system which manages to produce people ignorant of basic physics (usually the people complaining about signal strength for regional news programming) and mathematics (they were the ones who complained about why they never won on late-night gambling shows). Otherwise, they tended to fall into certain broad categories, which meant that they generated the usual stock responses. I never saw the least sign that anyone in management paid any attention to any of them unless they concerned a soap and then only if they went above a certain number that suggested there might be press comment. I mainly read them for amusement with my morning cup of tea and had the impression that I was one of the few who ever knew that they were there.
    The trouble is that even though the “dramatic fragmentation” of the media market is neither dramatic nor even new (since it’s been in place for at least the last 10 years), everyone in broadcasting still supposedly worries about it dreadfully, hence all is fair in the battle to prevent you fickle lot from hopping to another channel as soon as you’ve had your fun. You also have to bear in mind that few people who work in TV actually appear to watch what they make or show, so whilst they’ll say that they’re interested in the viewer experience, as far as I was able to tell from the meetings I attended few of them ever appeared to be actual viewers (which in turn explains some of the drivel that gets made). You have to be jolly empathic to understand a group of people when you’re not one of them, and few of the TV executives I ever met fell into that camp.
    So I’m afraid that you’re fighting a losing battle. The only way that they’re ever not going to talk over the credits is if it would look disrespectful to a particular interest group, hence I presume Mr Donnelly’s emphasis on a respectful announcement having been made after broadcast of a programme that discussed several brutal murders. You’re probably pretty safe if the programme concerns the Royal Family, politics, religion or any other “serious” programming which is followed by some form of light entertainment, always assuming that the person left in charge can tell that it would be disrespectful (which is not necessarily a given).
    I suggest that if this continues to irritate you that you email asking for the credits that were obscured by the announcement. It probably won’t stop them making similar announcements in future but you’ll at least be making the annoying customer service rep who offers the non-apology do some work to find them and send them to you.

  23. Carole Avatar
    Carole

    The credit-squeezing is annoying if you have worked on the production too, usually it is back to the larger credits when the names of The Brains appear at the end.

  24. Sarah Avatar
    Sarah

    Can I add to the list of places with irritating un-necessary music – namely – my old Doctor’s surgery and now it turns out my new Doctor’s surgery – the one place where God knows one would just like a bit of peace and quiet as one waits in all probability feeling unwell and/or distressed – who would want the local news station trivia phone in bellowing from one corner of the room – not me for sure!

  25. Margaret Powling Avatar
    Margaret Powling

    Brillianto!!!
    I am so glad you have complained about this. It happens over and over again and is not only irritating but ill mannered as if the people who have made the programme one has just been watching do not matter. Like you, I like to read the credits – but not only are they now squished into a sidebar on the screen, but they roll so quickly one isn’t able to keep up.
    Dare I add to my list of irritants over-loud background music – well, much isn’t music as we know it, but is background NOISE – which all but drowns out speech so that we have to use subtitles which then obscure the lower third of the screen. This is happening more and more (and no, I’m not deaf!) Also, lack of light in anything which smacks of ‘period’ (there is always swirling mist in anything Dickensian, as if there were never any daylight hours for the whole of the Queen’s long reign!) Also, sloppy speech, poor diction, and strong regional accents (regional accents are fine in their place, i.e. in the regions.)

  26. Ruth Avatar
    Ruth

    I had a rant last week at my favourite garden centre. I was wondering around outside contemplating the 50% off roses when suddenly some “music” came on. I tried to ignore it but I just couldn’t think. I have stopped going to their competitor because they ALWAYS have “music” on. So spoke to Assistant Management, whinged to all the staff and filled in a form squeezing that I didn’t go to their competitor because they played music there and if this place carried on this way I would boycott them as well. The AM said something like “on Mon, Wed…. blah blah.” I pointed out the average age of their daytime clientele (apart from the squealing children over the other side of the site on the soft play area) and suggested that none of them appreciated lift music either. The garden centre should be a tranquil place. You need nothing to make people buy plants other than supply a good range and arrange them artfully to make them irresistable.

  27. Elaine Avatar

    rest assured I will Sarah!!

  28. Sarah Kamara Avatar
    Sarah Kamara

    Legendary as always Elaine! :-) Love it. Do keep us updated on any response you receive.

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